These two pairs of pants are like new and same size. They can be worn anywhere from dress up to rock climbing or hiking etc. all around great addition to the adventure man’s wardrobe. You can see the contrast in color in the side-by-side photo. Once you find a good fit then you know why I had both! Price for both/ one sale. Length from top of waist to bottom is 40 inches for one and other is 42 inches long. Can cuff at bottom if you want to as looks hood either way.