These pants are the best EVER. These were worn very very minimally (less than 10 shifts). the color looks a bit light in some pics, but they are not faded. True black! I used them as an EMT, but good for so many things. A million deep pockets, zipper and button closure at the waist, so stretchy you can do a full deep squat in them. Bought these new for a lotttttt but they are so worth it!! Women’s size 8, I would say mid rise.