I bought these in the early 2000s from Neiman’s. Low rise. Very worn but still decent condition. Bottom of pants are worn from brushing on the ground. Seat/crotch area is worn very thin you can see through the fabric, but you can’t see when wearing. The last 2 pics are of the seat. I tried to show the ‘see through-ness’ of them but the lighting isn’t great in the last pic.