Alas, these very cool old Docs don't fit anyone in my household. They are marked 8 and seem to be mens shoes. They are in peak broken- in condition. The leather is softened, but the soles are in almost perfect shape. There is a little groove on the inside of each toe box. I think they just wore in that way from the previous owner. They are brown with the classic yellow top stitching around the bottom, eyelets are brass and the laces are the round string style. I'll ship em to you quick!