Hi! These are too big for me and have only been worn a few times. Lighting is challenging in Oregon in December, sorry! blake is a military trouser that was patterned from an old pant of Carrie's that has been worn down to the threads. sewn from a yarn-dyed Japanese cloth with a beautiful slub in the weave. it could be mistaken for the original fabric used for military wear from WWII era. the blake is intended to have a slouchy/oversized fit. if between sizes, take the smaller size for a less slouchy fit.