These are size 8.5 in a 8/10 condition no creasing or star loss they have been worn just wiped down and back in box with shoe tree in OG box and concrete pattern paper only selling because I hit on the Red Cement in raffle definitely a solid shoe and staple in my collection for a while no disrespectful offers or low ball offers but will entertain offers at my discretion thanks ship next if purchased before 12 pm and the following if after 12pm top rated seller and have plenty other stuff in my closet