Ahh these black pants were my go to for a couple summers and sadly just don’t fit me anymore. They’re so well made and turn into shorts super easy. Light weight and dry extra fast. Great for warm weather and keep you dry in wet weather. Think SUP, hiking, camping, anywhere kind of pants. I purchased from REI and paid full price thinking I’d own them forever … I measured them laying flat the waist is 15” across and inseam is 31”. The short length is about a 9” Bermuda length. Ships from smoke and pet free home and I did air dry every time I washed them…. They stay pretty clean though and don’t lose their shape so they really are an overall conscience and convenient year round pant choice!