These are a new pair without box On Cloudaway Cloudtech Slip on with bungee cord laces, colors are white with grey accents, never wore them they run smaller they are Sz9 but I think they would fit a sz 8.5 good, please see all pictures for more details and accurate description, also check out my other listings I do bundle up to 5 pounds and I encourage offers so lets make a deal 🤝 thanks for looking 👀