these are rudy jude jeans bought from a seconds sale reseller. really lovely pants with no noticeable flaws in my opinion, but they were marked as seconds by RJ. i have a pair of size 7 in the indigo utility jeans that fit perfectly, but my butt is too bodacious for these. all measurements taken laying flat: flat waist: 18” hips: approximately: 23.5” inseam: 26.25” front rise: 14.5”