These are great shorts, I purchased these (Summit Short) and the Alpinas at the same time and wore these a few times and they are just a tad too short for my liking. They fit like a small, small, so if that’s you, then great! No flaws, perfect condition. From the site: The shorts we cannot keep in stock. Built from our lightweight and stretchy ripstop fabric, the Summit Short is what you'll be wearing all year round – on the trails or off. The perfect length, not too short, not too long. Ripstop Fabric 87% Nylon // 13% Spandex 2.5" inseam Price is firm.