These are brand new Y2K super hot style. They are at Hardy brand new shorts. These are newer, not actually from the early 2000s. But they are a size large. They have no stretch. I’m a 34 and they’re super baggy on me on the hips I’m a 34 hips. So I would say a 36 or maybe a 38 hip but just remember there’s no stretch. Brand new super hot bimbo Y2K Lindsey, Brittany, Paris they got the super hot at Hardy across the butt