Basically a new pair of Dan Post Kingsly Caiman cowboy boots DP4807, I wear a 10D in non exotic boots and usually a 10.5D in caimans, theses are a 10EW, I read that a 10EW or 10EE would work. These did kinda but I think for me and my feet a 10.5 is better so I am going to depart with these. I literally wore these 1 night at a home get together. I have them priced to go or they will just sit…. longer! I have applied exotic conditioner to these a few times. Caimans don’t seem to stretch much. Ostrich I can wear a 10D