Wore these twice but realized the fit wasn’t quite right - I love them but they just didn’t work out. I wear a women’s size 8.5 and the 8 was too big. I added a heel pad that can easily be removed, and I’ll include the other heel pads I bought in case they are useful. Docs have a tendency to rub at the heel. These looked great with casual outfits and for an edgier look with socks and dresses.