As a teacher I needed a nice pair of jeans with no rips or tears to wear to school, so I went a size down thinking making I could make this pair of Judy Blues fit my body. Wrong again, got them home, washed them and knew I would not last the day in skinny jeans having to bend over so much in elementary school. Never attempted to wear them again. Great looking pair of jeans! Never worn! Size 11/30!