I bought these new for $175 when purchasing the matching Jetstream rain jacket, wore them once on a day hike, but they were too snug on me. Ugh. They fit more like a size 10/11, I think. They're really nice, have stretch to them, and are waterproof for hiking. Extremely lightweight, they pack great for traveling and roll up to take practically no space at all in your suitcase, and don't wrinkle.