please note, these have no rubber sole. I purchased these already well used and the rubber sole was unfortunately beyond repair. I removed the rubber sole and what is left is a stand alone, soft bottomed pair of vibram five fingers. I wore them a few times around the house but after being on the barefoot shoe journey for many years now I find these surprisingly restrictive for me. purchase these for trying out the size or style, or for use indoors or for your own specific needs! sold as is!! size 9/ size 40