La sportiva womens TX4 size 8.5 (EUR 40) I only wore once before my feet grew from pregnancy. They no longer fit which is a bummer because I love them! These shoes are great for hikes with rock scrambles, some bouldering around, approaching a climbing problem and you don’t feel like committing by putting your climbing shoes on yet. Great for canyoneering or just any rock scrambles. Could also use for weightlifting or in a shop.